In our second episode with Doug E Fresh, we talk about mob-opping and our love for jamming. One of the interesting things about jamming is how much the wind changes the game. A good wind can slow the disc down opening up a whole new set of tricks.
This poll asks, what is the ideal wind speed for a jam?
This website started as a teaching website. My assumption was that the audience were people new to Freestyle Frisbee. Since then, we have expanded our content. There’s the Live Stream and tournament results, Shootin’ the FrizBreeze Podcast, and more.
In this poll I want to learn more about our readers. With the emphasis on Freestyle as a competitive sport, I wonder how you would describe your interest in Freestyle Frisbee competition? You can choose as many options as you like so please select all that apply to you.
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Lori Throws Clock Spin – Grrrr
When freestyler’s meet one another for the first time, the first question is, “what spin do you take?” The answer to this question could change how they treat each other forever. Will they throw clock? counter? third world? Or does it even matter?
For this weeks poll, let’s find out if there’s a dominant spin in the world. When someone asks you what spin you take, how do you answer?
Anyone have any good stories about this conversation?
For those of you who compete at FPA events, the event is run and judged based on the competition manual. It defines the divisions, the pools, number of judges, judging categories, seeding, and all other aspects of how the competition works. Most events that are not FPA events still use many of the themes and concepts laid out in this manual.
When I first started competing I had no idea that such a manual existed. I was already overwhelmed by the welcoming people and amazing talent. I learned by following their example. As I got more serious competition I took the time to read the manual cover to cover. There were several “aha” moments for me. Like how the seeding worked and why being ranked high is an advantage. Also, if your music messes up you can restart your routine, something Matt and I ended up using later on. It also improved my understanding of what judges look for so I could tune my choreography.
Since that time, the competition manual has been revised. I’m embarrassed to say that I have only read bits and pieces. That plus my previous experience seems to be enough to get by. Then again, I was able to get by for several of my early years without reading it at all.
This weeks question, how much of the competition manual have you read?
When you read it, what did you learn?
In the 2nd episode with Bill Wright, the discussion turns to routine lengths. It’s an interesting topic. The Freestyle Player’s Association (FPA) competition manual defines routine length as 4 minutes for any pairs and 5 minutes for co-op (teams of 3). This was defined in 1986 (I deduced this by watching old footage, so someone please jump in with more info). Although the competition manual was revised as recently as 2015, routine lengths have not changed in 3 decades.
One might conclude that routine lengths are perfect. However, routine lengths have been a topic of debate and experimentation for many years. Earlier Freestyle Frisbee routines, like the Rose Bowl and pre-1986 FPA events, were longer: 5 minutes for pairs. As a young player in the late ’90s, I attended Skippy’s Manresa and Tampico events where routines varied from 8 to 12 minutes. Fast forward to recent times and events like Frizbeer and Potlatch are experimenting with shorter routine lengths. In fact, AFO 2017 will be using routine lengths of 3 & 4 minutes. It’s clear that 4 & 5 minutes are not absolute.
So, the question for today: What routine lengths would you prefer in the FPA competition manual?
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On the podcast, we’ve interviewed people that span all eras of Freestyle Frisbee. We’ve gotten feedback from people of all eras as well. This started me thinking about our demographics. This question is as much about Freestyle as is it about the readers of Heinsville. So, let’s start with our age, in decade sized brackets: How old are you?
For extra credit, let us know in the comments when you started playing.
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Donnie Rhodes, Ryan Young, and many other players have used Ballet as a way to improve their Freestyle Game. Steve Scannell has brought juggling into his Freestyle game. My approach is different. I focus only on the Frisbee stuff with a little bike riding on the side to keep my cardio strong. What about you? What other skills do you use to enhance your Freestyle Game?
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Let us know in the comments how you think your other skill has changed your game.
When I competed in my first event in 1996, The Beast took me under his wing and taught me how to think about competition. Since we had only met the day before we came up with 3 co-ops for the routine. That was 3 more than I had ever come up with before. From there, my routine preparation slowly grew towards more choreography.
At the 1999 FPA World Championships, Matt and I had 4 opening co-ops. Then we went “spon” until a “half way” time call. We had 2 co-ops for that. Then “spon”, finishing up with 2 co-ops at a “30 seconds” time call.
At the 2001 FPA World Championships, Matt and I had every moment of the routine planned out, with the exception of our 4 indies. No time calls where needed. At the time, that was our best finish, 4th.
Based on that experience, it might seem that fully choreographed routines are the way to the top. However, I have also had many successes that were 100% spontaneous. Matt and my first win at California states, for example, or recently at Frisbeer 2013. Never won and FPA worlds without choreography though.
After listening to Bill talk about the Coloradicals journey towards choreography, hearing the various approaches of the teams at Frisbeer 2017, and reflecting upon my own history, a question comes to mind.
When you compete, how much of your routine is planned ahead of time?
Tell us in the comments, do you think choreography increases a team’s chances of doing well?
There was a summer when the Portland crew was determined to find a new jammer. We put up a sign at every jam and made focused efforts to talk to anyone who stopped. Yet for all the effort, no new people became jammers. However, there was some success. We talked to many people. Some people did learn what freestyle was. Another couple borrowed a disc and played catch on their own for 30 minutes or so. I taught at least one boy to air brush a whiz ring. I’m afraid to say that since that summer we’ve lost some of our motivation to talk to those who stop and watch.
This weeks poll: When someone stops to watch the jam, do you stop to engage with them?
If you are a person who engages, what do you say? Has anyone had success bringing in a new jammer this way?
Frisbeer Cup 2017 featured a Challenger pairs division. Think of it like an amature division. It allows players / teams who would have been seeded near the bottom in open pairs, to play against their peers for a chance a first place. Divisions like this are often talked about as a way to inspire players with developing skills to attend and compete in a tournament.
This weeks poll, should more freestyle frisbee competitions have a challenger / amature division?
Let us know in the comments what you think about challenge / amature divisions.